Jay Jaffe FanGraphs Chat –10/8/24

Jay Jaffe: I used to be saddened to listen to in the present day concerning the loss of life of Luis Tiant. Fairly a memorable and colourful character, and a pitcher who I feel most likely belongs within the Corridor of Fame. Wrote a bit about Tiant in mild of S-JAWS a few years in the past https://blogs.fangraphs.com/cooperstown-notebook-the-best-of-the-unens…. I’m going to strive to determine once I can slot in a tribute amid my playoff protection.

Jay Jaffe: Which jogs my memory, thanks to everybody who chimed in with a sort phrase about my Pete Rose piece https://blogs.fangraphs.com/for-pete-rose-1941-2024-the-hustle-has-fin…. I received a really good be aware yesterday from Mark Monroe, the director of the HBO documentary for which I used to be interviewed, Charlie Hustle and the Matter of Pete Rose. Test it out in order for you a no-holds-barred have a look at a really difficult determine.

Jay Jaffe: And now, on with the present

Phillies phan: Are you able to consider any attainable motive for why the phillies bullpen determined to surrender so many runs abruptly? Matt Strahm had been stable all season and had duds again to again video games

Jay Jaffe: As a result of stuff like this inevitably occurs? Even one of the best bullpens get knocked round as soon as in awhile, as a result of aid pitching is a high-variance job. Most of those guys are two-pitch pitchers, and if a type of pitches isn’t working properly, it’s hassle. It’s additionally price remembering that notably with division rivals, hitters can get a number of seems to be at a reliever and that may shift the benefit of their favor.

Visitor: Is there a specific amount of plate appearances the place you’ll be able to transfer from only a pattern dimension to indicative of a participant’s worth? What number of would that be for a playoff pattern?

Jay Jaffe: It’s positively not sufficient to suit inside a single playoff run.

Jay Jaffe: Totally different stats stabilize — that’s, turn out to be dependable indicators — at completely different factors. We focus on this each April and Might particularly. Swing charges take about 50-60 PA and batted ball outcomes take about 60 BIP

Johnny5Alive: You quite be the Mets or Phillies proper now?

Jay Jaffe: In all probability nonetheless the Phillies as I just like the depth of their rotation extra, and that can be an element the longer this collection goes on.

Phil: Which might be a much bigger upset collection win, Detroit or KC? Not simply given the place every collection is however the season thus far?

Jay Jaffe: Detroit, I feel, as a result of they had been up to now out of the image for many of the season, and have gone on this run with a makeshift “rotation” the place any considered one of us is prone to be referred to as upon to pitch the primary inning if it’s not Tarik Skubal

Tom R: Which participant do you assume did essentially the most to extend their HOF possibilities yr? Gotta be Sale, proper?

Jim: If the Mets lose the collection, how a lot sleep will Carlos Mendoza lose this winter over not yanking Severino towards Harper?

Jay Jaffe: I’m certain he might stay to remorse it, however managers don’t are inclined to dwell on issues — errors, particularly — the best way followers do.

Yeah Properly Hiura Towel: I hate having this many groups within the playoffs. There’s simply too many groups that don’t need to advance yearly. Do we actually assume the Tigers ought to have an opportunity to go all the best way? Final yr’s Rangers-Dbacks was fairly dangerous.

Jay Jaffe: I’m not a fan of the 12-team format both, as a result of I feel letting the sixth-best crew within the league actually does have a tendency to indicate simply how a lot variance there’s in middle-of-the-pack groups’ performances over brief collection. Which isn’t to say that we don’t get entertaining baseball in October. However simply keep in mind that this a method of figuring out a event winner, not a definitive Greatest Workforce.

Nate: Does the Tigers run trigger groups to rethink the opener technique? Or is it simply an anomaly?

Jay Jaffe: I feel it’s one thing of an anomaly. We’ve seen groups reduce on opener utilization prior to now couple of seasons and I’m skeptical we’ll see one other proliferation, which isn’t to say that we gained’t discover examples. The Dodgers, if they’ve Othani and Yamamoto engaged on 6-man schedules, might find yourself doing a good variety of opener/bulk or bullpen video games subsequent yr to maintain these guys in line

Mike: Enjoyable reality: resulting from dangerous climate, the 1964 Liberty Bowl soccer sport was performed indoors within the Atlantic Metropolis Boardwalk Corridor. They needed to play on a truncated 80 yard discipline, with curved banks and virtually no sideline. At all times puzzled how “gimmicky” it will need to have felt, enjoying on an irregular floor that may dramatically change the technique—virtually into a special sport altogether.  I’m grateful to have watched a sport at Yankee Stadium so I may have a relatable expertise

Jay Jaffe: Wow, that soccer sport sounds bizarre as hell. However as for Yankee Stadium, the fence dimensions have been round ceaselessly. It’s an anomaly identical to the Inexperienced Monster is in Fenway, and visiting groups aren’t prevented from profiting from it, too

Nate: This nonsense with Machado throwing a ball towards the dugout is likely to be the dumbest baseball discourse we’ve had shortly

Jay Jaffe: Like some cultural phenomena that I see on social media, i’m simply going to strive avoiding discovering out precisely what occurred for so long as attainable

Grand Admiral Braun: How is catcher runs above common/worth going to have an effect on S. Perez and his HoF possibilities? Clearly not anyplace close to the WAR and defensive worth wanted making him a “no” for me, but when he will get to 300-350 homers, will voters in 2035 or no matter hit the “sure” button?

Jay Jaffe: That’s a great query. Was speaking about this a bit final evening within the press field with affiliate editor Matt Martell (this collection marks a primary for me, btw, in having one other FanGraphs colleague within the field so we will divide and conquer in relation to postgame quote-gathering). I feel Perez could have his supporters — and I actually perceive Royals followers’ love for him — but when I’m the man pounding the desk to take pitch-framing significantly and provides lengthy seems to be not solely to Buster Posey, Russell Martin, Brian McCann, and inevitably (sigh) Yadier Molina, Perez isn’t the one I’m going to vote for if I wish to retain some consistency

McGraw45: So many questions on Padres-Dodgers. Will MLB take the Roberts video significantly? Did Flaherty hit Tatis on function at an inopportune time in a playoff sport? and manny, manny extra.

Jay Jaffe: I don’t for a minute assume Flaherty hit Tatis on function. However I do assume that Profar’s deke on the house run theft — which was amusing but in addition borderline taunting — type of raised tensions and made each silly factor that occurred thereafter appear fairly charged, and the Dodger Stadium followers throwing balls and no matter else on the sector actually made for a horseshit look.

Visitor: Any hope for Dodgers?

Jay Jaffe: If the previous Walker Buehler exhibits up, maybe. However I don’t like the chances on that. Even with out Joe Musgrove, the Padres’ rotation is so a lot better, and the crew seems to be fairly unfastened.

Jay Jaffe: For the report I did decide the Padres to advance in our workers ballot.

Talfred: It appears to me that the Yankees’ selecting up Cole’s choice by including a yr is just not as probably as many assume. 5 years at $36MM per is a LOT of cash for a 34 yr previous coming off an elbow harm. What do you assume?

Jay Jaffe: I feel you’re mistaken to assume that is simply concerning the rational expenditure of a billionaire’s {dollars}. The Yankees love Cole, see him as being a tremendously beneficial chief and teammate past simply his pitching functionality, which is sort of good. I’m about 98% certain going to work one thing out.

Jim Bob Cooter: What are the possibilities that Lindor breaks the SS HR report? He’s at 248 and the report is 353.

Jay Jaffe: Mentioned in our Wild Card chat https://blogs.fangraphs.com/fangraphs-2024-wild-card-chat/. The numbers as shortstop (i.e. not at different positions) are  241 for Lindor and 345 for Ripken, and ZiPS initiatives Lindor for an additional 131 homers, and whereas it could’t actually let you know whether or not he strikes off the place, he’s clearly a ok SS to stay round there for awhile. So higher than 50% might be the place I’d put it.

emh1969: He’s clearly far-off however may Andres Gimenez make the Corridor as defensive first 2nd baseman (I feel solely Maz matches that standards)?

Jay Jaffe: Extremely uncertain based mostly on what we’ve seen, which isn’t to say there’s no progress left. However he’s received a profession 101 OPS+ and has fallen 38 runs within the batting element of bWAR from his large season two years in the past. When his protection inevitably regresses, if he’s a below-average hitter he’s not gonna make it to 40.

Mazeroski being within the Corridor is a fluke that owes every part to his 1960 World Collection-winning homer. Frank White’s numbers and defensive repute are just about the identical, and he got here nowhere shut.

ROY: Do you see Merrill’s playoff efficiency having any affect on ROY voting although it theoretically shouldn’t?

Jay Jaffe: The balloting for the foremost awards is finished BEFORE the beginning of the playoffs, so it gained’t have an effect. That’s to not say that voters ignored Merrill’s position in serving to the Padres to the playoffs — it’s some extent in his favor, particularly given the seamless place swap

Domenic: Are there any gamers who you’ve eyed as attainable Corridor of Famers that aren’t fairly on observe? Or, phrased in a different way, are there any guys who you’re retaining your eyes on as a result of an enormous yr or two may imply a ton? I’m pondering of somebody like Chris Sale, or possibly even Christian Yelich – although, each are extra well being instances than I’m essentially in search of.

Jay Jaffe: Aaron Nola and Zack Wheeler stand out. So far as lively starters go there’s a vacuum when you get previous the last-legs guys (Verlander, Kershaw, Scherzer). Cole looks as if the plain subsequent man, and Sale’s resurrected profession most likely places him in play too. If Nola and/or Wheeler can maintain up, they may elbow their manner into the image. Hopefully with out hurting their elbows or shoulders.

Bob: How scorching is Roberts’ seat in the event that they exit towards the Padres?

Jay Jaffe: Not scorching. Their largest impediment is the dilapidated nature of their rotation given all of the accidents, and that’s not on his shoulders — he’s not overworking these guys, he’s not designing their throwing applications and rehabs and such.

Bob: Playoff schedule within the AL for this division collection is horrible. The groups get a day or extra off earlier than sport one, a time off after sport one, a time off after sport two, a time off after sport 4. This leads to rested bullpens. That’s not how baseball ought to work. They should have drained pens. Which groups will profit extra from having these additional days off to relaxation their pen for these collection? Detroit or Cleveland? KC or NY?

Jay Jaffe: Playoff baseball is a special beast than regular-season baseball due to the off days. ‘Twas ever thus, even earlier than the expanded codecs, given the presence of journey days. The 162 sport season favors depth, however finest of three/5/7 means much less reliance upon it, to not point out the interjection of insane small-sample variance. I don’t assume anyone desires to see TIRED pens as a result of which means you’re going to be watching a variety of twelfth and thirteenth pitchers doing mop-up in 10-2 video games. Not nice leisure.

Looking for Options: Thus far, this is likely one of the most entertaining postseasons in reminiscence, even when there are too many groups in it. So, right here’s my proposal – 3 video games adopted by 5 video games adopted by two 7 sport collection is mindless. Both lower down the Division Collection to three video games with the bye crew getting the complete dwelling discipline benefit, or simply make it a seven sport collection already. Am I improper to assume this bizarre 5 sport collection is simply terrible?

Jay Jaffe: I don’t just like the best-of-threes, which have solely produced 2 three-game collection in three years up to now. May as properly go along with a winner-take-all sport, these are so. a lot. extra. enjoyable.

Greatest-of-fives have been round for over 50 years by now they usually’re a lot, a lot better than best-of-threes.

P.S. I’m not a crank.

Reds Enjoyer: Terry Francona mentioned in his openning press convention that the topic of accelerating payroll by no means got here up when he was speaking to the Reds concerning the supervisor job. Is it extra probably that that is true or that they actually did discuss growing payroll and he would simply by no means say so to the press?

Jay Jaffe: Terry hasn’t lasted roughly a quarter-century as a supervisor by promoting out his employers. I’m certain payroll was mentioned, and he not less than heard solutions that didn’t scare him away. He is aware of find out how to be diplomatic, so right here we’re.

I’m shocked he took one other job, tbh, given his myriad well being points. Ought to make for an fascinating crew.

AFL: Any prospects you’re excited to observe within the AFL?

Jay Jaffe: I usually don’t have the bandwidth to observe AFL video games as a result of my consideration is elsewhere — postseason stuff after which offseason stuff. I do get pleasure from discovering out what the prospect hounds comparable to Eric Longenhagen consider what they noticed, however that’s usually lengthy after the actual fact.

Looking for Options: Being self-reflective right here, my Pirates misplaced a type of 5 sport collection, and I’m nonetheless gutted. And if not a crank, then cranky.

Jay Jaffe: Having your favourite crew lose within the playoffs sucks, inevitably. I don’t have the identical attachment to groups now as I did once I was writing about baseball as a passion quite than a job, however I do know that sick-to-the-stomach feeling that comes with watching your crew get floor down and there’s nothing you are able to do about it. It hurts lots, it’s miserable, after which it’s over, after which (IMO) one of the best factor left to do is to attempt to get pleasure from what’s left of the baseball schedule as a fan of the sport quite than of your crew.

Daniel: Playing, as a behavioral downside, is just not dissimilar to consuming or different substance use points. For some of us, it’s compulsive and requires therapy– not an ethical failing. Rose is an outlier case for a variety of causes, however I ponder if pondering will evolve round participant playing in order that it’s not handled so in a different way from a participant who hurts his crew, say, by enjoying hungover.

Jay Jaffe: I agree with you however that doesn’t imply there aren’t penalties for violating guidelines and legal guidelines. An alcoholic getting a DUI wants each therapy for his/her consuming downside and punishment for placing folks in grave hazard. A gambler who places into query the integrity of the game given their skill to revenue from inside data or have a direct affect on profitable and dropping deserves to be banished.

Jay Jaffe: I want for his personal sake Rose had sought therapy for his playing dependancy/compulsion. Had he achieved that, and demonstrated contrition, I’ve little doubt he would have been reinstated ultimately.

I don’t know if MLB was sturdy sufficient when it got here to pushing Rose to get therapy. Perhaps doing one thing like saying, “We’re going to enroll you in [whatever the Betty Ford Clinic equivalent is for gamblers] and for those who full this system, MLB will foot the invoice in recognition of your service to the sport. After that, you’re going to do a/b/c, and if you are able to do that for X years, we’ll consider you for reinstatement.”

Jonathan W: How assured are you within the Yankees pulling of the collection win? I really feel like they don’t have any selection however to dump Boone in the event that they don’t make it out of this collection. Aspect be aware, is it simply me or is all people ignoring the truth that Rodon began trying iffy after he was hit by the comebacker?

Jay Jaffe: The comebacker hit off Rodon’s glove, however I feel you might have some extent. What was lacking from that sequence was an effort to get Rodon to gradual the sport down once more. I feel Wells has to get on the market and pay him a go to to maintain him in examine.

Jay Jaffe: As for Boone, I’m of the opinion it’s most likely time to maneuver on as properly, however that doesn’t imply I see it occurring in the event that they don’t win this collection. The Yankees worth him past the x’s and o’s — the gamers from Choose on down actually like him, consider he has their again, and contained in the group that goes a great distance. However I perceive followers’ frustration  particularly given the group’s historical past. All people desires a beheading on the first collection loss.

Bob G: What’s the logic for playoff off-days that aren’t journey days? TV cash?

Jay Jaffe: Much less overlap in video games. These four-game days may be a variety of enjoyable however for those who’ve received two video games occurring directly, you’re not maximizing your viewers.

Nate: Would you quite be within the Tigers or Guardians footwear proper now?

Jay Jaffe: In all probability the Guardians provided that they’ve respectable starters on faucet for 3 and 4, however I type of like the place the Tigers are at. They’re enjoying as if they don’t have anything to lose, they usually actually don’t, plus if they’ll stretch this to Recreation 5 they’ve Skubal prepared.

Kellen Voss: Has a hitter pretty much as good as Kerry Carpenter ever had such excessive splits? He’s arguably the Tigers’ finest hitter, but he doesn’t even begin towards lefties. I’m solely 25 so I don’t have a ton of context, however this appears like an anomaly.

Jay Jaffe: Offhand I don’t know, however the issue with an actual analysis of the query is that 32 PA of 18 wRC+ manufacturing isn’t actually sufficient to get at a participant’s expertise stage. The profession hole (148 wrC+ vs RHP, 69 vs LHP) does appear fairly massive, however even the 134 PA for the latter isn’t an enormous pattern to judge.

Rob: Who wins the ALDS and NLDS collection?

Jay Jaffe: In our workers ballot I picked Houston (LOL), Yankees, Phillies, and Padres. I’d prefer to revise that and say I now not assume Houston goes to win.

McGraw45: How a lot does playoff efficiency issue into Corridor of Fame induction?

Jay Jaffe: it varies. I feel it was a large issue for David Ortiz and as talked about, most likely Mazeroski. In all probability truthful to say it helped Koufax too given his brief counting stats. Actually a complete lot of pitchers from the pre-television days; for those who gained a pair World Collection video games and had a couple of dominant years, like Charles Bender or Lefty Gomez or Dizzy Dean, chances are you’ll very properly have gotten in  regardless of a scarcity of longevity

Zach: The Dodgers shouldn’t throw Tatis one other strike on this collection until they need to, proper? Additionally, the narrative most likely modifications with Mookie if Profar doesn’t rob that homer, however at what level does it cease being a small pattern dimension and as a substitute begin being a psychological problem?

Jay Jaffe: 3-for-44 or no matter sounds very very like it’s each a pattern dimension and psychological problem. Clearly he didn’t neglect find out how to hit, however he’s being keyed on and he’s urgent and it’s not understanding nice.

And yeah, I feel the Dodgers shouldn’t throw Tatis many strikes nevertheless it’s very robust to tug that off. He’s received vulnerabilities like each different hitter; the true downside is that the Dodgers’ pitchers might not be ok to use them.

Jay Jaffe: OK of us, that’s it from right here for in the present day. Thanks for stopping by, and benefit from the the rest of the Division Collection!