Tuesday, December 24, 2024

Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat – 7/1/24

2:02
Ben Clemens: Hey everybody, welcome to the chat
2:02
part 34: Who’s the very best beginning pitcher prone to be out there and which prospects should the Orioles deal to get him?
2:02
Ben Clemens: I imply, the BEST? Crochet
2:02
Ben Clemens: I believe the White Sox are going to need a haul, although, and rightly so
2:03
Ben Clemens: He’s an attention-grabbing case, I’ve been doing plenty of due diligence on mover and shaker sort pitchers for the commerce worth checklist
2:03
Ben Clemens: coming at you on the finish of the month, and so on
2:04
Ben Clemens: I’m actually not fairly positive what to do with guys like him, Skubal, principally the folks in Dan’s article at this time
2:04
Ben Clemens: so okay, Skubal and Crochet are each free brokers after the 2026 season
2:05
Ben Clemens: we predict they’ll each be glorious over these years
2:05
Ben Clemens: like, 8-ish WAR in 2.5 years, that’s a reasonably good projection for a pitcher
2:06
Ben Clemens: but in addition… by the identical projections, Coby Mayo, for instance, is at 8 for these years
2:06
Ben Clemens: I’d commerce Mayo for both of these dudes
2:06
Ben Clemens: however I’m struggling to wrap my head round how the league will behave
2:06
Matt VW: Which fringe-ish pre-Statcast period participant do you would like we had the brand new numbers on? I would like Wily Mo Pena exit velocities.
2:07
Ben Clemens: We’ve talked about this one earlier than, and sure, it’s Wily Mo after which I might love bat monitoring on Bonds
2:07
Ben Clemens: his homers per swing obtained so ludicrous at his steroid-aided peak
2:07
Ben Clemens: like, it could simply be a spectacle
2:07
Stephen: So Volpe appears to be a median hitter thus far (sizzling begin and trending down in direction of 100 wRC+, not nice statcast sliders). How assured are you that he’ll turn out to be a great hitter?
2:08
Ben Clemens: I’m above common assured that he’ll find yourself within the 100-120 wRC+ vary
2:08
Ben Clemens: which is nice for a plus defensive shortstop
2:08
Ben Clemens: I believe there’s little or no debate on that entrance, btw
2:08
Ben Clemens: baserunning and protection dude with marginally plus hitting, he’s like Lindor Lite
2:09
Ben Clemens: works for me!
2:09
bigtimetimmyjim: giants homestand appeared good! I really feel just like the ahmed properly center infield combo is healthier than the properly estrada proper now, any ideas on that?
2:09
Ben Clemens: I used to be at two of the video games and watched a lot of the relaxation, feeling very Giants-y of late
2:09
Ben Clemens: man, that is powerful
2:09
Ben Clemens: unusually i really feel just like the one it’s important to play is Correctly?
2:10
Ben Clemens: the otehr two can’t hit
2:10
Ben Clemens: i would favor Correctly SS Estrada 2B although
2:10
Ben Clemens: I can’t fairly speak myself into Ahmed
2:10
Nate: Is Paul Skenes a high 10 pitcher but
2:10
Visitor: Any hope that the Nats may signal Soto?
2:10
Ben Clemens: I hope that is Cheng, in that case hello
2:10
Ben Clemens: if not, although…. I imply, it’s inside the realm of risk
2:11
Ben Clemens: I don’t assume it’s seemingly, nevertheless it will get much more seemingly if the Yankees do worse than anticipated adn the Nats have a loopy good second half
2:11
Kevin: What are you aware or think about groups is perhaps doing with synthetic intelligence instruments? Have you ever heard of anybody digging in to this matter?
2:11
Ben Clemens: There was a extremely good collection on growing velo within the Athletic final week
2:11
Ben Clemens: I’d extremely suggest studying that
2:12
Ben Clemens: I’m undecided to what extent that is mirrored throughout the sport however they’d some interviews with the Driveline of us speaking about utilizing AI to attempt to develop optimized pitching mechanics
2:12
Princess Leia: Assist us Obi-Wan Clemonobi, you’re our solely hope!

Begin Bregman or Huge Royce Lewis in a H2H factors this week?

And is it time to chop Carroll for Wyatt Langford in the identical league?

2:12
Ben Clemens: I couldn’t minimize Carroll, however I’d strat Royce I believe
2:12
Vladdy G: Vladdy minimize his hair on June 19 and is slashing 409/435/932 with 6 HR and a wRC+ of 282 since then.  If he shaved his head fully, what would these numbers appear like?
2:12
Ben Clemens: I’m guessing… 282 wRC+
2:13
Ben Clemens: Vladdy Samson is a enjoyable story, although
2:13
Ben Clemens: I’m rooting for it to maintain going
2:13
Datt Mamon: Heliot Ramos – actual, sustainable, and so on.?
2:13
Ben Clemens: I wrote about him final week (I believe? possibly two weeks in the past)
2:14
Ben Clemens: Primarily I believe that it’s on the entire actual, I believe he’s made some significant changes since his prospect star light
2:14
Ben Clemens: I do assume that he’s going to undergo some rising pains, although, b/c basically he’s labored out a great adjustment that’s getting him forward in counts
2:14
Ben Clemens: however pitchers will most likely toss something new at him
2:14
DBRuns: Cleveland’s catchers rank 2nd in MLB in WAR (huge shock, to me). Is {that a} results of counting all 211 of David Fry’s PAs in direction of catcher WAR? Or are solely these PA/innings behind the plate counted?
2:14
Ben Clemens: okay so, I don’t see that?
2:14
Ben Clemens: right here’s our leaderboard with positional break up ‘as C’
2:15
Ben Clemens: it has cleveland tenth, with 57 PA and 1 WAR from Fry there
2:15
Ben Clemens: ah yeah, use ‘positional break up’ and never ‘main place’
2:15
Ben Clemens: if you wish to solely depend once they’re on the spot
2:16
Ben Clemens: now we have each so that you simply don’t need to do dumb issues like have a look at the checklist of catcher WAR and have adley lacking b/c he DH’s
2:16
Ben Clemens: however I like utilizing positional break up once I’m groups
2:16
Damaged Bat: It positive does get messy when your staff underperforms for a couple of straight years… So the present main underachievers appear to be the Jays and Cubs. They each have their GM’s in place for a number of years, and  Each groups have had some accidents however IMO the basis chase of steady frustration is roster development. I think about each GM’s really feel the warmth. They’re between a rock and a tough place. How do both or each of them salvage something by staying the course and never buying and selling for prospects or buying and selling for the prospects. It nearly looks as if each of them regardless are useless males strolling. Successful, is that the one factor that may,hold,Atkins or Hoyer employable as GM?
2:16
Ben Clemens: employable as a GM? I don’t actually assume so
2:17
Ben Clemens: folks appear to be extra re-employable than I’d count on
2:17
Ben Clemens: that stated, I believe that solely successful can repair each of those conditions. if the Cubs lurch again right into a rebuild, why would you retain Hoyer? And the Jays put collectively this grand decade-long plan and effectively, if it doesn’t bear fruit, possibly somebody new ought to take the helm
2:18
Ben: Are there any real looking patrons for Lane Thomas?
2:18
Ben Clemens: i believe so, however I believe the market is gonna be fairly smooth
2:18
Ben Clemens: I’m avoiding particular commerce proposals in at this time’s chat, b/c we’re gonna do sufficient of these as we get later into July
2:18
Ben Clemens: however I believe that Thomas has simply gotten too near the top of staff management to be an enormous commerce piece
2:19
Ben Clemens: and he’s taking part in nearly completely within the nook, now, so there are plenty of these varieties with higher bats out there
2:19
War2D2: The Cubs appear to only be a nasty staff at this level. What would you do when you had been of their footwear? They’ve a deep farm system with plenty of 45FVs, however not plenty of 55FVs. Would you empty a few of it out for a Mason Miller/Robert Jr./and so on “huge” transfer, or dump guys like Cody Bellinger and different short-term belongings for…extra 45FV guys? I suppose? Looks like they’re each in an honest place, and likewise not one to simply transfer out of.
2:19
Ben Clemens: I believe I’d simply keep the course, to be trustworthy
2:19
Ben Clemens: I don’t actually assume that making an enormous transfer is smart, though I suppose Robert may change my thoughts on that
2:20
Ben Clemens: I believe that one factor that groups who haven’t put all of it collectively but under-appreciate is that having an enormous mass of fine however not nice prospects will increase the probabilities of a breakout someplace
2:20
Ben Clemens: in the event that they fall fully out of the race, positive commerce leases for some prospects which are’nt on the 40
2:21
Ben Clemens: however eh, I really like the general development of the Cubs org
2:21
War2D2: re: Statcast for oldy-old occasions, I’d need Statcast on historic fireballers like Bob Feller and Nolan Ryan. Joe Posnanski made daring claims in his “Baseball 100” that he thought Satchel Paige was throwing 100+, and I’m guessing it’s extra just like the league was throwing 80 and he was throwing 90 and it appeared like 100.
2:21
Ben Clemens: yeah! I used to be considering extra folks inside my lifetime
2:21
Ben Clemens: Rickey Henderson dash pace
2:21
Ben Clemens: Babe Ruth exit velo, the break on Sweet Cummings, the inventor of the curveball
2:21
wheelhouse: how for much longer do i’ve to look at anthony volpe, leadoff hitter? and whose job was it to listen to him say “I’m gonna flatten my swing to hit the ball on the bottom extra” and never strap him to the Clockwork Orange rig with movies of Alex Bregman till he recants?
2:21
Ben Clemens: oh man, now THIS take I agree with wholeheartedly
2:22
Ben Clemens: Volpe shall be at his finest if his offense tendencies in a Bregman path
2:22
Ben Clemens: that’s not a leadoff hitter
2:22
ResumeMan: Been to any Ballers video games? We’ve been to 2 and it was good enjoyable (although would most likely be much more enjoyable if we may hit a recreation that wasn’t a blowout loss…)
2:22
Ben Clemens: No, however I’m planning on it later this summer season
2:23
Ben Clemens: Going to a Stompers recreation in July too
2:23
bosoxforlife: Has Jackson Merrill moved forward within the NL ROY? I simply watched him tear the Pink Sox aside and was astonished by how good he’s.
2:23
Ben Clemens: So, sure, nevertheless it’s going to rely closely on Skenes
2:23
Ben Clemens: and Yamamoto, obv, however I believe particularly Skenes
2:23
Ben Clemens: there’s additionally that complete you’re by no means pretty much as good as you have a look at your smartest thing
2:24
Ben Clemens: Merrill’s energy has been a shock
2:24
Ben Clemens: I’m skeptical that he’s gonna stick with it, however I’ve been very impressed by the bat to ball
2:24
Ben Clemens: which I used to be speculated to be impressed by, in fact
2:24
Pirates: Why did the Pirates DFA a damaged, however serviceable Roansy Contreras, then substitute him on the staff with absolutely the worst from the waiver wire? GMBC says they’re betting on pitch traits they like. Are the traits how the rainbow shot appears to be like off the opposite groups bat? Marvel at this stat line, Ben Heller: 2 IP, 49.50 ERA (14.16 FIP), **20 TBF**
2:24
Ben Clemens: I actually don’t know
2:24
Ben Clemens: I used to be shocked they gave up on Contreras within the rotation, not to mention total
2:25
Derek: To not be overly pedantic (really, exactly to be overly pedantic), that is actually Vladdy Nega-Samson – his hair was holding him again, not giving him energy!
2:25
Ben Clemens: Oh wow yeah, glorious level
2:25
Ben Clemens: dunno why I believed that method
2:26
bdubs: Two gamers who got here out of nowhere this yr: India and Josh Smith. Which is extra prone to hold it going ROS? The Fangraph projections tilt in direction of Smith however love India’s house park. You?
2:27
Ben Clemens: if we’re speaking fantasy worth, I’m on India, however truthfully each face some taking part in time crunches and I’d most likely be trying to deal both if somebody was
2:27
Ben Clemens: Matt McLain clearly deserves a spot in Cincy, and he’ll get one
2:28
Ben Clemens: it’s gonna lead to a jam, I’m not saying India will get pinched but when he struggles time will dry up
2:29
Ben Clemens: I believe it’s not fairly as unhealthy on teh Rangers however the issue with Smith is that realistically, you’re relying on his protection to present you a ground on his worth given his slap hitting tendencies
2:29
Ben Clemens: So when Josh Jung comes again….
2:29
Ben Clemens: like, are the Rangers actually gonna run out Smith in an outfield nook?
2:30
Ben Clemens: that’s principally the place they’ve availability. I believe they are going to. However I fear that if he will get chilly, he’ll flip right into a platoon man quick
2:31
Oaktown Blues: Jacob Wilson has a .411 cumulative minor league BA. He batted .455 in AA, obtained a promotion, and is batting .447 in AAA (ISO over .200 at each ranges). Scouts assume he’ll keep at SS. Shouldn’t this man be getting extra high prospect hype?
2:32
Ben Clemens: wanting via his statcast stuff now
2:33
Ben Clemens: I imply, it’s a matter of diploma, it appears to me
2:33
Ben Clemens: now we have him as a high 100 man, second within the system behind Miller (so #1 now)
2:33
Ben Clemens: identical with mlb.com
2:34
Ben Clemens: I believe the explanation he’s not getting like completely shoved is that he has actually low uncooked energy
2:35
Ben Clemens: there’s simply not rather a lot there when it comes to loud contact. however he’s additionally solely 51 PA into his triple-a profession
2:36
Ben Clemens: in order that’s extraordinarily early to say something
2:36
Ben Clemens: I’ll say, I’m usually in on these bat management no-Ok guys, and I predictably actually like Wilson
2:36
Ben Clemens: however he must hit some extra bombs if I’m gonna put him on the VERY high of the checklist
2:36
MilwakeeBeerjays: Hey Ben. What’s your favorite dinosaur?
2:36
Ben Clemens: nice query, BeerJays
2:36
Ben Clemens: it’s a stegosaurus
2:37
Ben Clemens: I actually like these dorsal spines, and I like that (as of once I cared extra about dinosaurs, not less than) we didn’t actually know what they had been for
2:37
Ben Clemens: love a little bit thriller
2:37
War2D2: Rickey already know what Rickey’s dash pace was. FAST. Rickey already know he quick.
2:37
Oddball Herrera: So  right here’s the factor with Ramos out of your article, and I believe it brings up an attention-grabbing common query.  Every time I see a man who has finished an strategy change, I fear that he’s merely “ambushing” pitchers, and people pitchers will finally regulate (see Ramos’ final two weeks).  On the spectrum of “breakout/sustainability indicators” there are a bunch of stats I’d be extra comfy with than a “I’m going to begin swinging at first pitches” sort change, which looks as if it’d vulnerable to turning right into a recreation of whack-a-mole
2:38
Ben Clemens: Yeah…. I imply I believe that’s all the time value desirous about
2:38
Ben Clemens: I’d flip it on you, htough
2:38
Ben Clemens: to me, what was occurring is that pitchers had been ambushing Ramos
2:38
Ben Clemens: flip in a curveball and get forward to use his swing and miss tendencies with out having to problem him within the zone to get forward
2:38
Ben Clemens: b/c they simply assumed he wouldn’t swing
2:39
Ben Clemens: now he’s forcing them to pitch him straight up, with out the little cheat code smooth curve
2:39
Ben Clemens: now, he obtained numerous these cheapie hits off of these, don’t get me unsuitable
2:39
Ben Clemens: I don’t assume that half is sustainable, they’re not gonna hold lobbing them in there
2:40
Ben Clemens: however I believe he’s a reasonably good hitter when he’s getting pitched straight up. His model of hitter does rather a lot higher forward within the depend than behind, and groups had been preying on that early in his profession
2:40
Ben Clemens: it’s not like he’s simply blindly hacking at first pitches
2:40
Ben Clemens: he’s simply going up there considering that if he sees one thing smooth and excessive, he’s gonna take an enormous rip
2:41
Ben Clemens: truthfully I believe that extra hitters ought to do one thing in regards to the in-zone smooth breaking ball for strike one pattern
2:41
Half Road: Ideas on James Wooden?
2:41
Unusual Angel: I’m positive it’s been requested, however what’s your ground/ceiling expectation for James Wooden this season and long-term?
2:42
Ben Clemens: Oh man, numerous James Wooden questions at this time, as there must be
2:42
Ben Clemens: I’m very hyped
2:42
Ben Clemens: I’m extraordinarily Staff Wooden, I obtained ridiculed for having him as my high prospect subsequent yr
2:43
Ben Clemens: and possibly ridiculed is powerful, however numerous derisive feedback
2:43
Ben Clemens: I’m not an enormous ground ceiling man
2:43
Ben Clemens: however how about latter-day Joey Gallo ground, Tyler O’Neill median, Aaron Decide ceiling
2:44
Ben Clemens: I’m actually into it, and I believe that guys like Wooden are the sorts of prospects who flip into generational gamers
2:44
Ben Clemens: not all the time, clearly
2:44
sonny: The issue with turning Volpe into Bregman is that he tried that, it didn’t work. Individuals underestimate how arduous it’s to be a RH pull hitter in Yankee Stadium. Take a look at the ghost of Josh Donaldson for what it appears to be like like once you promote out for pull energy and also you’re not Stanton/Decide sturdy.
2:45
Ben Clemens: I disagree with that
2:45
Ben Clemens: Yankee Stadium constantly has excessive HR park components for righty hitters
2:46
Ben Clemens: and that’s not some fluke of Decide taking part in there and on the street, it holds true when he’s not taking part in, and so on.
2:47
Ben Clemens: like… Donaldson left and went to Milwaukee and was nonetheless unhealthy
2:47
Ben Clemens: the factor that occurred to him is that he obtained outdated
2:47
MilwakeeBeerjays: RE: Dinosaurs
2:47
MilwakeeBeerjays: Scales or feathers?
2:47
Ben Clemens: , scales in my head. Regardless that I do know they’re extra prone to be feathers
2:48
Ben Clemens: you possibly can’t erase my childhood view of issues
2:48
metsetradio: With two positions conceivably up for grabs subsequent yr for the Mets (2nd and third) What do you do with all of those infield prospects when you’re David Stearns (Mauricio, Baty, Vientos, Jett, Acuna, and so on)? Who’re you trying to hold and who’re you buying and selling for pitching?
2:48
Ben Clemens: what I might do is hold all of them till not less than one establishes himself within the majors
2:48
Ben Clemens: presumably two
2:49
Ben Clemens: principally I just like the implied optionality worth you get from having a bunch of fairly good prospects
2:49
Ben Clemens: if they’d a single extremely elite dude I’d be extra concerned about dealing from my surplus
2:49
Ben Clemens: however I believe this can be a energy in numbers scenario
2:49
Visitor: It’s not prone to occur, however how enjoyable would a Dodgers Rays mega deal be? Dodgers get Paredes, Caballero, and Palacio, and Rays get Lux, Outman, Vargas, and a few mixture of catching and pitching prospects (Dashing, Cartaya, Wrobeleski, Damage, Frasso). Dodgers get long run assist at 3B and SS, the place they don’t actually have too many inner choices, and the Rays get future upgrades at positions they don’t actually have prospects for and get a pair gamers who’ve had latest success that they’ll flip in the event that they begin to hit once more.
2:50
Ben Clemens: This sounds very attention-grabbing, and I provide you with kudos for the commerce development. Everybody on either side is each very Dodgers-y and really Rays-y
2:51
Ben Clemens: Um…. I imply for me it’d be very enjoyable
2:51
Ben Clemens: I really like MANY of those gamers
2:52
Ben Clemens: I believe that the Dodgers most likely don’t want Palacios sufficient to make this deal occur, and my sense from speaking to folks throughout the trade is that even now, groups will not be bought on Paredes
2:52
Ben Clemens: I’m gonna get much less pushback once I ship my checklist out this yr b/c I’m lastly not going to ship it out with Paredes within the high 50, haha
2:52
Ben Clemens: though truthfully possibly I nonetheless ought to
2:53
Ben Clemens: he simply continues to mash
2:53
Ben Clemens: however principally, I believe to make this commerce the Dodgers need to worth Paredes extra extremely than I believe they do
2:53
Unusual Angel: Random thought on that Rays-Dodgers commerce, how a lot worse is Paredes within the bigger Dodger stadium? It looks as if his success depends on pulled XBHs that wouldn’t essentially work in a much bigger stadium
2:53
Ben Clemens: rational purpose to not commerce for him
2:53
Large Gonzales: After a yr and a half of doing this, has Jarren Duran established himself as a MLB beginning OF, who presumably will get an All Star nod this yr? Older prospect who revamped his swing throughout covid and struggled with going up/all the way down to AAA afterwards, he’s been an enormous purpose BOS remains to be hanging within the playoff image this yr.
2:54
Ben Clemens: fully established
2:54
Ben Clemens: ZiPS is skeptical about him…. and thinks he’s a legit beginning outfielder with upside
2:55
Ben Clemens: I may see him possibly getting an AS nod this yr, he’s been electrical
2:55
DJ Tofu: What do you assume is a good commerce for the Giants to get Coby Mayo?
2:55
Ben Clemens: I dunno, this doesn’t sound like a factor that may occur
2:55
Ben Clemens: the Giants are the precise type of staff that don’t line up effectively with the O’s
2:55
Ben Clemens: they’re like a model of Baltimore turned down 10%
2:55
Ben Clemens: no large roster holes however not sufficient distinction makers
2:56
Ben Clemens: just like the Giants’ finest commerce chips are Logan Webb and Patrick Bailey
2:56
Ben Clemens: however they aren’t buying and selling these guys
2:57
Ben Clemens: and I don’t assume you can also make a deal round Camilo Doval that is smart
2:57
Ben Clemens: so I simply don’t see a match right here
2:57
Pat: Skubal for Jackson Holliday- Who says No?
2:57
Ben Clemens: Scorching take: the O’s say no, however they shouldn’t
2:58
Ben Clemens: Holliday’s line within the minors in June is SO bizarre
2:58
Ben Clemens: .444 OBP, .378 SLG
2:59
Ben Clemens: wtf is occurring right here, you recognize?
2:59
Ben Clemens: since coming again down he’s hitting .252/.425/.421, and I simply don’t assume these stroll abilities are clearly gonna play
2:59
Ben Clemens: within the majors
2:59
Ben Clemens: 23% stroll fee, i imply….
2:59
Ben Clemens: I dunno I’m nonetheless very optimistic
3:00
Ben Clemens: however I don’t assume he’s a surefire all star, and Skubal is correct now
3:00
Ben Clemens: I acknowledge that this places me in a wierd spot as an evaluator
3:00
Ben Clemens: In case you’re counting anticipated WAR, even when you do some non-linear formed stuff to make avearge gamers much less invaluable and stars higher, Holliday simply tops Skubal
3:00
Ben Clemens: however I simply don’t assume it performs that method in actual life
3:00
MilwakeeBeerjays: It’s gotta be feathers proper? Jurassic Park, whereas being one of many probably the most entertaining motion pictures ever, has pushed the scaled agenda for years. Do your *RESEARCH* folks.
3:01
Ben Clemens: Look, it’s nearly actually feathers. Simply, scales appeared so cool in all my youngsters’ books
3:01
Ben Clemens: that stated, my theoretical future little one shall be getting the proper modern-day data from me in order that htey don’t develop up residing a lie like I did
3:01
Hunter: Let’s say Spencer Torkelson comes again up after the all star break and principally reproduces his second half from final yr (120ish WRC+, 25ish HRs). What would you do with him?
3:01
Ben Clemens: I’d give him one other shot however with a extremely quick leash
3:01
Ben Clemens: er, effectively, no, 25 bombs after the ASB is wild
3:02
Ben Clemens: he had 19 final yr it appears to be like like
3:02
Ben Clemens: I’m…. I’m fairly out on Tork to be trustworthy
3:03
Ben Clemens: I believed Dan’s article about him was excellent
3:03
Dan: When a pitcher modifications their supply and to a lessor extent when a hitter modifications his swing it surprises me they’re as profitable as they’re. Isn’t a big a part of why they’re profitable that they’ve apply the pitch/swing tons of of hundreds of occasions? It not like you possibly can simply inform a world class athlete (from one other sport) swing a bat and count on them to be aggressive on the MLB degree.
3:04
Ben Clemens: I’ve thought of this rather a lot
3:04
Ben Clemens: and I believe that the important thing right here is that MOST of the issues they’re doing with the brand new supply or swing are the identical
3:04
Ben Clemens: and that the truth is, the very best coaches do a extremely good job of maintaining the vital components constant
3:06
Ben Clemens: so like…. possibly you modify your arm slot barely however the swing and the followthrough really feel so related that it’s nice
3:06
Ben Clemens: I believe that elite athletes are good at repeating motions for positive, however they’re additionally adaptable inside these motions
3:06
J: If you got an opportunity to begin a brand new growth staff what sort of ability would you base your staff round to attempt to achieve edge?
3:07
Ben Clemens: I believe I’d a)spend plenty of time hiring developmenet employees
3:07
Ben Clemens: and b) I’m me, so I’d be looking out for the subsequent technology of both Paredes/Schneider varieties or Betts/JRam varieties
3:08
Ben Clemens: like clearly everyone seems to be. however as an growth staff I’d attempt to spend extra of my assets than regular on these guys
3:08
Ben Clemens: I believe that from a useful resource expenditure to attainable huge league return perspective, there’s some juice there
3:08
bosoxforlife: I had an expertise in golf with considered one of my finest juniors. He was recruited closely and went to a high faculty golf program. Instantly the coach despatched him to a brand new coach and very quickly couldn’t break 80. True idiocy!
3:08
Ben Clemens: feels like the brand new coach wasn’t the proper one
3:08
Okra: Probabilities that Strider, Acuna, Olsen all had their profession finest seasons final yr? 80%?  90%?  Hurts that Atlanta didn’t capitalize
3:08
Ben Clemens: blah, I used to be wanting into Strider’s long-term projections earlier at this time
3:09
Ben Clemens: I believe that Olson and Acuna having their finest years are fairly seemingly
3:09
Ben Clemens: simply b/c these had been AMAZING years
3:09
Ben Clemens: I’m much less bought on Strider
3:09
Ben Clemens: the factor is, if he comes again wholesome, I believe he may simply be ’23 Strider
3:10
Ben Clemens: so I’m gonna say in combination, 50%?
3:10
Ben Clemens: like possibly a type of different two spikes a season
3:10
Ben Clemens: however Strider nonetheless tasks as unimaginable when wholesome
3:10
Ben Clemens: I believe he may spike a wholesome good season fairly simply
3:10
Greatest yr!: “I believe that Olson and Acuna having their finest years are fairly seemingly

simply b/c these had been AMAZING years.” I keep in mind that folks stated this about 2017 Decide

3:11
Ben Clemens: that’s why I stated ‘fairly seemingly’ as a substitute of 0%
3:11
Ben Clemens: I’m only a hedger at coronary heart
3:11
Derek: How effectively do you assume an growth staff run by the complete present FanGraphs employees would fare? My intestine tells me the reply could be not less than “fairly effectively”, and doubtless higher!
3:11
Ben Clemens: Haha, I’m not very modest, so I’d say we’ll do effectively
3:11
Ben Clemens: we’d* do effectively
3:11
Ben Clemens: that stated, I do like the large dispersal of skills now we have. We have now modelers, scouts, mechanics-type folks
3:12
Ben Clemens: I suppose now we have me? I’m undecided what class I slot in
3:12
Ben Clemens: Appelman is an excellent total determination maker, so is Meg, I believe they’d do a great job on the high of the org
3:12
JK: One factor I actually respect about FanGraphs, and also you, is the pattern of “course of over outcomes”. How usually do it’s good to see unhealthy outcomes earlier than you consider course of change?
3:12
Ben Clemens: on this matter!
3:13
Ben Clemens: I’m cognizant that I lean an excessive amount of on course of at occasions. I believe that the very best you are able to do is admittedly give attention to updating your priors. A factor that I attempt to do once I’m doing extra long-term evaluations of gamers, notably for the commerce worth collection, is to individually do evaluations of individuals based mostly on what I believe proper now
3:13
Ben Clemens: and have a look at my outdated evals and ZiPS’s evals later
3:14
Ben Clemens: then type of hone in on the place there are huge variations and check out to determine whether or not I’m simply being weirdly biased
3:14
Ben Clemens: I suppose I’d say that this goes two methods
3:14
Ben Clemens: on a participant degree, I’m prepared to maneuver extra rapidly
3:14
Ben Clemens: b/c you’re getting all this new information
3:14
Ben Clemens: however on a staff development degree, I’m extra concerned about my prior views, b/c there simply aren’t THAT many observations
3:14
Dan: I don’t assume the FanGraphs staff is almost large enough to run a baseball staff. If youre just one/4 of the employees are you actually operating the staff and when you’re spending your time company managing as a substitute of scouting, modeling and so on you might be solely tapping a portion of your expertise.
3:14
Ben Clemens: Oh yeah we’d rent massively
3:15
Ben Clemens: nowhere close to large enough
3:15
Ben Clemens: and sure, one factor that’s actually difficult is making an attempt to determine whether or not persons are higher as particular person contributors or managers
3:15
Ben Clemens: my spouse is a extremely good supervisor, imo, and off the clock we spend a ton of time speaking about that
3:15
Ben Clemens: I’m a person contributor at coronary heart, so I believe I won’t be an excellent match on this theoretical staff
3:16
Ben Clemens: I believe the one factor which may maintain us again is that now we have a couple of too many IC’s
3:16
Kirk: Oh the questioning of how high flight athletes can change mechanics and nonetheless keep good: you principally nailed it. The probabilities are normally small within the precise course of that they’ll sustain, even when it appears to be like like an enormous change to the layman’s eye. The expertise these dudes have additionally helps them keep good, as a result of on the finish of the day they’re nonetheless swinging a bat arduous or throwing a ball arduous.

I believe that folks could be shocked at how effectively athletes from different sports activities would pickup baseball, by the way in which. It could be tough at first, however when you give somebody like DK Metcalf or Steph Curry (two random athletes off the highest of my head) a problem of “turn out to be a serious leaguer” after which give him on a regular basis and coaching to give attention to that, he’d pull it off.

3:16
Ben Clemens: Thanks, web stranger, however yeah, I’m with you
3:16
Ben Clemens: nice athletes are simply ludicrous
3:17
MilwakeeBeerjays: Gunnar Henderson AL MVP 100% 75% 50% 25% 0%?
3:17
Ben Clemens: Properly, 50% is larger than the ceiling of the place I may put this, proper off the highest
3:17
Ben Clemens: I’m not gonna have him forward of Decide, and there are different gamers
3:17
Ben Clemens: I believe I’ve him round 25%
3:17
SkenesMVP2024: There’s been some speak of the Pirates including 1-2 bats and making an attempt to make a run on the WC.  Does that sound real looking to you, or is their offense too putrid for it to make a distinction?
3:18
Ben Clemens: you recognize, that was my snap response however I’m gonna give it barely extra thought
3:19
Ben Clemens: okay, I’m gonna replace it to I believe that they need to wait till the top of the month and see the place issues are
3:19
Ben Clemens: like in the event that they’re nonetheless 3 video games out of the WC, and one of many groups forward of them falls behind htem
3:20
Ben Clemens: I believe they possibly can? the factor they’ve going for them is that a few of their offensive underperformance is from gamers I believe are good who simply haven’t been good thus far
3:20
Ben Clemens: there’s a distinction between that and like, okay 7 of the 9 place guys are filler
3:21
Ben Clemens: they undoubtedly want extra offense. however not less than a few of that may come from Cruz persevering with to develop, Hayes being simply okay as a substitute of unhealthy, that kinda factor
3:21
Ben Clemens: that stated, I might not be including now
3:21
Ben Clemens: give your self a month to see if a few of these modifications are literally occurring earlier than deciding
3:22
bigtimetimmyjim: what are your ideas on how efficient properly could be at taking part in shortstop protection? I really feel like he’s been fairly strong thus far however I believe he got here up extra as a 2b
3:22
Ben Clemens: my ideas are that I’ve no clue, however that the Giants want to search out out
3:22
Ben Clemens: alright, on that be aware, I had a good time chatting with you all at this time however I’ve to go get shifting on lunch
3:23
Ben Clemens: the man who asks the lunch query, I didn’t see you at this time, however scrumptious bread from a neighborhood place with herbed goat cheese
3:23
Ben Clemens: and doubtless a salad after
3:23
Ben Clemens: have an excellent vacation week, everybody

 

Ben is a author at FanGraphs. He could be discovered on Twitter @_Ben_Clemens.

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